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---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steve Paulsson <firstname.lastname@example.org> >>> John Fox writes: >>>In his book "The Forgotten Holocaust. The Poles Under German Occupation 1939-1944" (Hippocrene Books paperback edition 1990), Richard C Lukas writes the following on pp. 38-39: "As a result of almost six years of war, Poland lost 6,028,000 of its citizens, or 22 percent of its total population, the highest ratio of losses to population of any country in Europe. About 50 percent of these victims were Polish Christians and 50 percent were Polish Jews. >>> These figures are very often repeated, but they are Communist-era falsifications, like the now-notorious estimate that 4 million people died in Auschwitz. This figure was derived as follows: pre-war demographic trends were projected to produce an estimate of what the population "ought" to have been in 1945; the actual population was subtracted from this, yielding a figure of roughly 6 million; from this the actual number of Jewish victims (3 million) was subtracted, and, hey presto! 3 million Polish victims as well. The problem with this procedure is obvious: it includes unborn children as "losses", and furthermore, unborn Jewish children as Polish losses. Post-1989 estimates, based on adding up actual victim counts, are much lower, ranging from 1.55 million (Bogdan Musial) to 1.8 million (Czeslaw Pilichowski) to 2 million. Rather than the silly 50-50 formula, which creates a misleading impression of equivalence and is wrong anyway, it would be better to say that around 7% of Poles perished and around 90% of Polish Jews. Steve Paulsson _________________________________________________ For information on my book, Secret City: The Hidden Jews of Warsaw, 1940-1945, click on the following link: http://members.aol.com/gspaulsson/Secret_City.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: H-NET List for History of the Holocaust [mailto:H-HOLOCAUST@H- > NET.MSU.EDU] On Behalf Of H-Holocaust > Sent: November 18, 2003 3:54 PM > To: H-HOLOCAUST@H-NET.MSU.EDU > Subject: Re: Polish Numbers (Fox] > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: John-Patrick Fox <email@example.com> > > Ref. the request from Alan Jacobs for a total number of Polish victims of > Nazism during the Second World War. > > In his book "The Forgotten Holocaust. The Poles Under German Occupation > 1939-1944" (Hippocrene Books paperback edition 1990), Richard C Lukas > writes > the following on pp. 38-39: > > "As a result of almost six years of war, Poland lost 6,028,000 of its > citizens, or 22 percent of its total population, the highest ratio of > losses > to population of any country in Europe. About 50 percent of these victims > were Polish Christians and 50 percent were Polish Jews. Approximately > 5,384,000 or 89.9 percent of Polish war losses (Jews and Gentiles), were > the > victims of prisons, death camps, raids, executions, annihilation of > ghettoes, epidemics, starvation, excessive work, and ill treatment". > > See also the table and discussion of figures and perecentages of Polish > losses on page 84 of Jan Tomasz Gross, "Polish Society Under German > Occupation. The Generalgouvernement 1939-1944" (Princeton University > Press. > 1979). > > Regards. > John P Fox