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Nancy, To your question about, "So who is deciding what sites students can and cannot access? And is this constitutional?" - I would offer two answers. The company decides to some extent - and this is true in almost any product I know of on the market today (8E6 or otherwise). The company categorize the sites. My second answer is, locally, we accept or reject their categorizations... To some extent, "we the school system professionals" decide what is and what is not filtered. Granted this goes well in some schools and less well in others - but that is not the fault of the company itself. And we all know that we only reject the categorizations when we actually find out about them. This means that some sites might remain blocked and we'd never know it because nobody ever tried the site. I don't know that a school system would be hung on the line for whether or not there was a Constitutionality issue. If your product is categorizing and discriminating on viewpoint AND you know about it AND you are doing nothing about it - then there could be some cause for alarm. Joel VerDuin Director of Technology and Media Services Wausau School District, WI > From: Nancy Willard <email@example.com> > >> From: M G Durrant <firstname.lastname@example.org> >> >> Um, Barracuda and Websense are not web filters. Barracuda is a email > spam and >> virus filter. Websense is part of Google's advertising service > package. >> >> As far as web filtering, most schools in Utah are filtered by 8e6, > the >> remainder are mostly filtered by Lightspeed. We have 8e6 on a > statewide >> contract which is administered by the Utah Education Network. The > individual >> 8e6 filtering appliances are administered by the school districts > themselves. >> Some schools have separate reporting appliances, others have combo >> appliances, but all have reporting capability. >> >> The 8e6 appliance I use is shared with another entity (an area > technical >> college); we have experienced total hardware failure twice in four > years. The >> units have been promptly replaced, but the failure still caused pain. > The >> filtering is mostly easy to administer, but there can be surprises. I > would >> not characterize it as "set it and forget it." > > Lightspeed is the only filtering product that is designed for the > educational > market only. > > There is another issue you might want to be aware of related to 8E6. It > appears > the company has pretty close relations with the American Family > Association - a > very conservative religious organization. > > Go to: http://www.afa.net ( http://www.afa.net/ ) and scan down the > left hand side to AFA Filter. This > goes to Bsecure. <http://www.bsecure.com/offers/afafilter.aspx?13850> > > Note also here: <http://www.bsecure.com/offers/focusonthefamily.aspx> > "Bsecure > is honored to be among the resources suggested by Focus on the Family. > The two > pro-family, Christ-centered organizations have teamed up to offer > Internet > protection for your family at a special rate of *30% off the regular > price." > > There were several articles online that are no longer available that > indicated > that indicated that Bsecure is a subsidiary of American Family > Association. > > Note the press release on the bsecure site: > <http://secure2.bsafeonline.com/News/8e6Home.aspx> Also here: > http://www.8e6.com/press-releases/products/8e6-technologies--bsecure-announce-integrated-internet-security-collaboration.html > > > "Florida-based Bsecure Technologies and California-based 8e6 > Technologies today > announce the beginning of a powerful collaboration aimed at expanding > upon the > companies’ best-of-breed technologies by providing the first, truly > integrated > client/server Internet Security solution. > > Over the last nine years, privately-held 8e6 Technologies has > continually > pushed the envelope, providing leading-edge appliance-based Internet > security, > filtering, reporting and bandwidth pr > ioritization tools for thousands > of > enterprises worldwide. In the same time, Bsecure grew to provide robust > > client-based Internet security, filtering, personal firewall, > spyware/adware > blocking and spam solutions." > > Also here:<http://www.8e6.com/partners/pn_tech.htm> > > Bsafe Online, Inc. (This was the prior name of BSecure) > A vertical service provider (VSP), Bsafe Online distributes and > supports new > and growing lines of Internet filtering and security applications. > Using the > 8e6 Database, Bsafe currently markets a client software version > entitled > 8e6Home. > > So who is deciding what sites students can and cannot access? And is > this > constitutional? > > Nancy > -- > Nancy Willard, M.S., J.D. > Center for Safe and Responsible Internet Use > http://csriu.org ( http://csriu.org/ ) > email@example.com --- Edtech Archives, posting guidelines and other information are at: http://www.h-net.msu.edu/~edweb Please include your name, email address, and school or professional affiliation in each posting. 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