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Why would you allow a student to watch a video of male ejaculation in school from any source? Is it part of the curriculum? Or are you hitting the bottom of the barrel in your search for straw men? > From: Jim Beal <firstname.lastname@example.org> > > Community schools still need to be responsive to the community. Pick your > battles. I would rather spend time justifying why we teach evolution than > why it was important that we allowed a student watch a movie of male > ejaculation on Wikipedia. The first is defensible, the latter, not so. > >> From: Larry Phillips <email@example.com> >> >>> From: Larry Sanger <firstname.lastname@example.org> >>> >>> Thanks, Art. I admire and appreciate a person who admits he's wrong. >>> Of >>> course you're right that Wikipedia should be flagged as having sexual >>> images, because it has big steaming piles of them. >> >> I searched Wikipedia for "sex positions", "nudity", "pedophilia", "sexual >> intercourse" and didn't find anything that would be considered porn in >> this day >> and age. There were images that while instructional wouldn't be >> recommended >> for use in public schools. More because of society's desire that >> students >> learn by doing instead of direct instruction. I would strongly suggest >> that >> followers of this debate actually look at the content that is being >> portrayed >> as pornographic or objectionable (there were no images on the pedophilia >> page >> and it was the most complete and balanced article available for free on >> the >> web) before describing Wikipedia as a purveyor of porn. >> >> However, the point missed here is that to find any sexually explicit >> images >> (line drawings or other) you have to search for them. While students >> accidentally coming across nude images is forgiven, searching for them >> isn't. >> Students know what is appropriate/allowed and what to do when they >> encounter >> inappropriate images (inappropriate for school). This is classroom >> management >> and has little to do with what is potentially available on a site. If >> educators are concerned about what is available in Wikipedia, perhaps >> they >> should look at the hard copy encyclopedias and dictionaries in their >> libraries >> (check the published date while you're at it). --- Edtech Archives, posting guidelines and other information are at: http://www.h-net.msu.edu/~edweb Please include your name, email address, and school or professional affiliation in each posting. To unsubscribe send the following command to: LISTSERV@H-NET.MSU.EDU SIGNOFF EDTECH