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I'm not going to get into this, because I am on the record in many places discussing the merits and demerits of Wikipedia. But I couldn't let the following pass. > From: Art Wolinsky <email@example.com> > ... > Wikipedia also has a large amount of text based encyclopedic > information > about sex and it's understandable that community standards might come > into > play in blocking the site, but no way is access to Wikipedia going to > be a > CIPA violation. CIPA only requires technology be used to protection > against > pornographic images. What's interesting is that CIPA does not require > technology implementation to block pornographic text. Maybe you aren't aware that Wikipedia has amazing numbers (tens of thousands) of images of nudity and of sex acts, including a lot of what could be described legally as obscene. Uploading such images to Wikipedia is for some people, apparently, a hobby. If you don't believe me, stop reading and go actually search Wikipedia. I'd include some search terms for you, but it might cause this mail to be rejected by your filters. But anyway you might try #53 in the list of Wikipedia's most popular articles (http://www.techxav.com/2009/08/31/wikipedia/), the article (of course) called "List of sex positions" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sex_positions). Just wait until you get down to the "Group sex" section. NOT SAFE FOR WORK, Nancy! You could also try #54, "Masturbation"--more than you ever wanted to know (or see). I think some of these images have been permanently burned into my retinas. It amazes me that there are people responsible for school district filters who don't know that there are many such images on Wikipedia. By the way, I was never in favor of such images on Wikipedia and, to the best of my memory, they started being collected after I left the project. I regret to say that I would not allow children unfettered access to Wikipedia, for the same reason that I would not put copies of encyclopedias of sex positions in the library. If there is a reliable system for blacklisting pages and images from Wikipedia on a per-item basis (I don't know if there is, actually; there might be, and I'd be curious to know), you should use such a system. My opinion as Wikipedia's co-founder is that the whole contents of Wikipedia are not at all appropriate for children. Of course, I think that teachers should have completely unrestricted access to Wikipedia, and they should be able to share some selected appropriate individual pages from Wikipedia with their children, if they must. They (and curriculum and library managers) are supposed to be good judges of reliability, so. --Larry ----- Lawrence M. Sanger, Ph.D. | http://www.larrysanger.org/ Editor-in-Chief, Citizendium | http://www.citizendium.org/ Executive Director, WatchKnow | http://www.watchknow.org/ firstname.lastname@example.org --- Edtech Archives, posting guidelines and other information are at: http://www.h-net.msu.edu/~edweb Please include your name, email address, and school or professional affiliation in each posting. To unsubscribe send the following command to: LISTSERV@H-NET.MSU.EDU SIGNOFF EDTECH